Comment by LastTrain
6 days ago
I conclude that you cannot apply consequentialism when the outcome is unknown, so the US has done something immoral and illegal, end of story.
6 days ago
I conclude that you cannot apply consequentialism when the outcome is unknown, so the US has done something immoral and illegal, end of story.
Idk man, if my country was ruled by a dictator who faked elections I would be very happy to see some outsiders removing him. Kidnapping (and hopefully jailing for a long time) anyone who is in power by cheating the election is a big moral win in my book.
Awesome. I think we should also extend that to leaders who have increasingly overwhelming evidence that they planned to and intended to overturn elections (just because they failed isn't an excuse, attempted murder is still a crime)...
Amazing to see so many people spelling out their rationalization in such simple terms.
Do you have any evidence of the election being faked? Other than the US says so?
Extensive polling shows this, yes.
Maduro is not popular. Go find the nearest Venezuelan and ask them what they think about the situation if you want to learn more.
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I mean look up why recent Nobel Prize winner got the prize. It's not just US saying so.
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> cannot apply consequentialism when the outcome is unknown
Can you not substitute the mean expected outcome where the factual outcome is not yet known?
If you have the data, are extremely careful and build a coalition, maybe. This admin has done none of that and the answer if asked will be “eat shit”. Blows my fucking mind that there are apologists for this.
Not when you're claming the moral high ground and all you have is guesswork.
Recklessness is immoral, and look how the discourse normalizes it so cleverly.