Comment by rayiner
5 days ago
You think it’s a good idea for foreign countries to overturn domestic elections? The Bolivarian regime came to power in a free and fair election.
5 days ago
You think it’s a good idea for foreign countries to overturn domestic elections? The Bolivarian regime came to power in a free and fair election.
> You think it’s a good idea for foreign countries to overturn domestic elections?
I certainly don't, and I don't speak for the person you replied to but I figure most people commenting here don't think that either
> The Bolivarian regime came to power in a free and fair election
Hugo Chavez was elected president legitimately in 1998, so it's true that the Bolivarian regime came to power fairly. But just about nobody that's paying attention thinks Maduro won the presidential election in 2024. Elections were held, Maduro lost (by a huge margin), and he continued being president anyway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_e...
I’ve heard Maduro was not elected in free and fair elections… The official results reported Maduro winning with about 51 % of the vote.
European Parliament resolutions and reports explicitly described the process as lacking transparency and integrity such as not publishing detailed polling station results, meaning the results could not be independently verified, and concluding the election was neither free nor fair.
You may recall María Corina Machado was barred from running shortly before the election itself.
Maduro was reported winning with 5,150,092 votes, or 51.20000% of the vote, and the main opposition had 44.20000% of the vote. These are considered suspiciously round percentages.
Which election. I find no source for that. And even if that where the case, it wouldn't be too far fetched to think someone computed votes from rounded percentages when writing an article.
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> I’ve heard Maduro was not elected in free and fair elections…
I've heard that American elections are rigged too. That still isn't an open invitation for an invasion by another nation to kidnap government officials on US soil. Even if Maduro had abandoned elections entirely and installed himself as king it wouldn't justify what the US has done.
If you look at the Wikipedia article on the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election, it seems to be unlikely that the outcome of that election was that Maduro won.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_e...
The opposition boycotted the election and told their supporters not to vote, then cried foul when they lost. It may not have been a representative election, but the incumbent party had no need to rig it.
I think that was the 2025 one?
Venezuela haven't had any free and fair election since the dictator in power was Chaves.
IMO, the US doing piracy around it is way more concerning than kidnapping a dictator that sent the military against its people, architected a couple of famines, and forced a double-digts percentage of their population out of the country.
Still, this won't lead to anything good. Because the entire US Executive is composed of incompetent sadistic people right now. But it could be a good thing for Venezuela in different circumstances (but I imagine anybody capable of making good change there would refrain from doing so).
Maduro's regime? The election results were so tainted the entire world was laughing - even the number of votes placed altogether exceed 100%.
So once elected more than 25 years ago they are allowed to stay and perpetuity and stage sham election just because they won a legitimate one a generation ago?
Venezuelans didn’t just vote for a candidate. They voted to re-found the country under a new constitution and ideology. They’re enjoying the consequences of the ideology they voted for.
Not according to the nobel prize committee