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Comment by jacquesm

6 days ago

Ethics debates are not served by utilitarian arguments.

> Ethics debates are not served by utilitarian arguments.

There isn't just a single universally agreed upon moral framework that serves as the basis for ethics.

Depending on whether you adopt a Rawlsian, Utilitarian, Libertarian, or Communitarian moral framework, your actions would look different depending on the circumstances.

Specially, the Utilitarian moral framework optimizes for the greatest good for the greatest number. Willing to sacrifice the few of the many. It might not be your or my moral framework, but I don't know that we can rule it out as a valid way to approach ethics.

  • > Specially, the Utilitarian moral framework optimizes for the greatest good for the greatest number.

    No, the proponents of the utilitarian moral framework try to justify illegal actions retrospectively if the outcome was good and refuse to take responsibility if it is bad.

    Ethics should guide your decisions beforehand and require you to take responsibility for all possible outcomes.

    • Not sure I follow your line of thinking.

      Are you arguing that Utilitarianism isn't a way to guide decisions? And are you saying it is an invalid moral framework?

      FWIW, many ethicists suggest using multiple frameworks and would argue using Utilitarianism for policy.

      For example, in the EU utilitarianism is rarely used as the sole moral foundation but serves as the primary tool for practical decision-making and public policy. Most visible in how the EU balances competing interests to achieve the "greatest good".

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    • I have no idea what you're saying.

      If your hand is on the track switch, you're just as responsible for the trolley no matter which way it goes. Walking away from the switch does not absolve you.