Comment by throwaw12
3 days ago
> There is ZERO concern of the current US administration about the welfare of Venezuelans
100x times this!
US administration doesn't care about the welfare of most human beings in the world (including in the US).
We saw it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Yemen and now Palestine. Having an assumption that this move was made for Venezuelans and now they're liberated from evil is wrong.
All those Mid East operations were way more for Israel than for the US. At least that's not a factor here.
Iraq was probably against Israel's interests. (Israel hates Iran, Iraq hated Iran. US taking out Iraq made Iran stronger which made Iran more threatening to Israel)
We did fund Iraq under Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war. By the 2000s, Israel absolutely wanted us to attack Iraq, for example https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-to-us-dont-delay-iraq-at...
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This operation is to secure oil so that an attack on Iran doesn't destabilise oil supplies to the USA and Israel.
I feel like OPEC scales up/down production on a whim more than Iran produces.
Unless you mean the potential for a boycott like what happened back in the day. However the geopolitical situation has changed enough that i think that is exceptionally unlikely.
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That’s one hypothesis. Better: it’s to destabilise Cuba so Rubio can deliver to his base.
That thick crude requires refineries to crack it...
What did Afghanistan have to do with Israel?
Nothing, I wasn't including Afghanistan in "Mid East"
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The psyops online is quite amusing and insane, painting this as a victory for Venezuela. And weirdly by pro-Israeli account on Reddit.
By now my radar assumes Israel is somehow connected like many other events we've witnessed in the past. Venezuelas president was quite staunchly against Israel and it's interests, close with Iran too.
Israel is just an extension of the US in the middle east under the branding of Judaism. The desire is to weaken and eventually ignite the region in conflict. Already taking place between Saudi, UAE, Yemen etc. Weakening takes time.
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About that
Funny list of countries. Ask women in Afghanistan how they were treated with US presence vs. now. Ask jews in Palestine how Hamas treated them vs. Israel. Ask people in Yemen how they are living right now, but be sure to talk to them directly instead of writing to them, because barely anybody there can read. Their leaders just love them so much, they don't want them to read any bad news.
Ask women in Afghanistan how they were treated with Soviet presence vs. now.
I don't have many good things to say about the USSR, but they are 100x better than the Taliban.
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This probably doesn’t make the point you think it does.
It goes back to the core issue: which nations have the moral right to tell others how to conduct domestic policy.
If you ask women in Afghanistan you will hear different views. People in the cities had a better life during the American occupation but in rural Afghanistan women were often worse off than under the Taliban. The US propped up warlords, some of them real monsters, and those controlled a lot of the country side. There was no good side in Afghanistan and the US should have stayed out, instead of propping up one group of oppressors to try to defeat another.
So what you say is that there wasn't too much western engagement, but too little. I agree.
> There was no good side in Afghanistan and the US should have stayed out, instead of propping up one group of oppressors to try to defeat another.
I mean... The Taliban caused 9/11... What did you exactly expect the US to do?
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Fair and just societies thrive in refugee camps after all
I don't think I understand what your point is? Are you implying that the US should have what? Stayed in Afghanistan forever? What solution would you have proposed there?