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Comment by morshu9001

3 days ago

I prefer this honesty over the unrealistic expectations the US set up in each Mid East country plus Afghanistan.

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joering2  3 days ago

How about not going there at all for whatever reason, under any circumstances. And there are bigger issues at stake, no amount of drugs "made in Venezuela" inhaled by Americans can kill them as much as one North Korean Nuke.

I'm surprised no lesson the US learnt from similar overthrows in the past, but again this is Trump. The country can get so unstable that by the time Marco start giving out "legitimate" orders, there will be 30 different groups fighting and killing each other. True unchecked anarchy. So what's then? Boots on ground. Are we still in the spirit of sacrificing 150,000 American soldiers in the name of freedom, like we did in Iraq? When we kicked out Russians from Middle East we were not aware they kept islam jihadists at bay, then Al Quaida came to live and we all now how it ended.

  • morshu9001  3 days ago

    I wasn't even thinking about the drugs. Is that a real thing? North Korean nuke isn't a real concern.

    Iraq had no goal. The stated reason was WMDs and 9/11, so bogus and unrelated. Stability wasn't our concern either, I mean we funded Saddam Hussein to begin with. US companies did set up oil drilling, but I really don't think the driving motivation was oil, otherwise we'd have gone to Venezuela first.

  • thisisit  3 days ago

    > I'm surprised no lesson the US learnt from similar overthrows in the past, but again this is Trump.

    Its not Trump, its the US.

    Someone always comes along trying to attack/occupy a country. Making big promises. Years later when nothing is achieved. Someone else will come along talking about how much US is spending, taxpayers dollars being lost, failures etc.

    In recent example, Afghanistan and Trump come to mind. Everyone talked about how Afghanistan was a waste of taxpayer dollars. But now here we are.

    The only thing which I can say specifically about Trump is that I wouldn't be surprised if the flip towards "Venezuela was a waste of taxpayer money" happens during his administration and he comes out saying "I have never heard of Maduro".

  • mensetmanusman  3 days ago

    “ How about not going there at all for whatever reason, under any circumstances.”

    What moral and ethical system brings you this supposition?

  • myvoiceismypass  3 days ago

    > When we kicked out Russians from Middle East we were not aware they kept islam jihadists at bay, then Al Quaida came to live and we all now how it ended.

    I thought the US was well aware of this, since the US was funding the Mujahideen at the time?

  • flerchin  3 days ago

    Let's not sacrifice anymore Americans in the name of freedom, but the number was substantially fewer than 10,000, not anywhere close to 150,000. Perhaps that many Iraqis died, or maybe even more.

  • meindnoch  3 days ago

    >Are we still in the spirit of sacrificing 150,000 American soldiers in the name of freedom, like we did in Iraq?

    What are you talking about? Even Vietnam only had a third of that many casualties. Who told you this bullshit? ChatGPT?