Comment by amrocha
7 days ago
You’re not convinced that the US invading other countries and deposing presidents is bad? In a world where nuclear weapons exist?
7 days ago
You’re not convinced that the US invading other countries and deposing presidents is bad? In a world where nuclear weapons exist?
It's an objectively fantastic thing when those presidents are doing things not in our interests.
We obviously haven't and won't do this to a nuclear-armed country.
> We obviously haven't and won't do this to a nuclear-armed country.
Right... which means that every regime knows they have to become a nuclear-armed country.
Absolutely, this has been clear for a long time. Countries are only truly sovereign if they have a reliable nuclear capability, otherwise they are always at the whim of another country with a sufficiently powerful military.
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> It's an objectively fantastic thing when those presidents are doing things not in our interests
Why wouldn't China do the same in another country whose president is not acting in China's national interest? If you were Iran[1], would abandoning your nuclear weapons program for sanctions relief still be an option?
1. Or Saudi Arabia
Of course each of these countries are ignoring international law in various respects and doing things in their self interest.
Anything as brazen as capturing a president? Not yet. But I can absolutely see them doing this if they deem the cost/benefit great enough.
I wouldn't be surprised if China goes further and launches a full-scale invasion of Taiwan in the next decade, they've certainly been preparing for it according to our intel.
What the fuck do you think China is going to do next time the US does an “exercise” in the china sea?
What the fuck do you think Iran is going to do next time Israel acts up and the US supports it?
> What the fuck do you think China is going to do next time the US does an “exercise” in the china sea?
They will continue to blow hot air but ignore it, unless they truly and sincerely believe it is a real military action worth starting a war over (and destroying both economies over.)
> What the fuck do you think Iran is going to do next time Israel acts up and the US supports it?
They will continue developing their weapons program thinking they can do it in secret, and it will continue to get compromised and/or blown up.
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What's the implication here, we're supposed to threaten to nuke them instead? It only works if you're willing to follow through.
Who’s we? I’m guessing you’re not a general in the US military, so I don’t know why you’re inserting yourself into this decision.
Do you think a nuclear war would be good for you? Obviously not, so you shouldn’t want your government to threaten to start one. And you shouldn’t support your government when they signal to the world that the only way to be safe from interventionism is to develop nuclear weapons. Or when they signal to other superpowers that they don’t respect international treaties, or the sovereignty of other nations.
Nuclear war with who?
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Instead of strawmanning and presenting yet another false dichotomy, try answering their question.
I'm not the one who brought up nukes and legit don't understand what they meant by that. To answer the other question, yeah I can generally see some valid reasons to remove a foreign leader from power. Not sure about Maduro.
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