Comment by NoImmatureAdHom

Biden's new Title IX rules became law on August 1, 2024 so they weren't "might". Thankfully, we only had a few months under this particular imposition on our basic rights and push never came to shove. We agree that Orange Man does some Bad Things. I would bet history will look more kindly on him than society does now, though.

> the intentions of it are to widen the hiring pools to consider more people.

I think this is a charitable take. To "consider" more people. But: 1) considering people takes resources, and if there's an optimal amount of "considering" to do and you force the pool one way or another...you're forcing people out as well as in. There's no way to "consider" more people efficiently. It's a nice lie that many people told themselves and others.

2) More importantly, and because of 1), this is not generally how it worked imho. We got quotas and mandates, people were put to the "bottom of the pile" (i.e., their applications not looked at). It was clear-cut illegal discrimination at large corporations and in academia, and there's plenty of direct first-hand evidence of that (including here on HN). I saw it myself many times (admittedly in academia, which as you rightly point out is a white-hot ball of crazy in this regard).

3) I'm not going to do it, but I think it wouldn't be hard to find evidence of high-level people who were inflicting DEI explicitly saying it wasn't about "widening the hiring pools to consider more people", but rather directly about removing white people from power and replacing them with black, brown, gay, female, or ideally some combo people. Nothing to do with "considering", just a power grab under an alternative metric for fairness they called "equity".

As for court losses: https://reason.com/2023/09/07/affirmative-action-loses-in-co... Affirmative action is over, is the biggest one

https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/case-files/ames-v-ohio-depa... is another big one

More minor but: Executive Order 14151 "Ending Radical and Wasteful Government DEI Programs and Preferencing" was blocked but now is un-blocked and enforceable nationwide: https://apnews.com/article/dei-trump-administration-appeals-...

EO 14173 "Ending Illegal Discrimination and Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity" had an injuction, but that injunction was stayed https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/marylan...

It appears to me that these programs pretty much have been axed across the board.