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Comment by swiftcoder

16 days ago

Every time I read one of these, I'm increasingly convinced that the whole AI crowd are just high as kites 24/7. Must be some good drugs in the valley

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reedlaw  16 days ago

Gergely Orosz (The Pragmatic Engineer) interviewed Yegge [1] and Kent Beck [2], both experienced engineers before vibe coding, and they express similar sentiments about how LLMs reinvigorated their enjoyment of programming. This introduction to Gas Town is very clear on its intended audience with plenty of warnings against overly eager adoption. I agree that using tools like this haphazardly could lead to disaster, but I would not dismiss the possibility that they could be used productively.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZE33qMYwsc

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSXaxOdVtAQ

  • bitexploder  15 days ago

    Anecdote, but some of the time when I am blasted after a day of thinking for my job all day a design session randomly throwing shit at an LLM hits the spot. I usually make some meaningful progress on a pet project. I rarely let the LLM do much pure vibe coding. I iterate with several LLMs until it looks and feels right and then hack on it myself or let the LLM do drudgery like refactoring or boilerplate to get me over the humps. In that sense I do strongly agree.

viraptor  16 days ago

> the whole AI crowd

It's far from a homogenous crowd. Yegge stands out with extreme opinions even from people who adopted the new tools daily.

PunchyHamster  16 days ago

I just tune out and wonder why someone thought it's good idea to link it and expose others to the suffering

neomantra  16 days ago

It's techno-freemasonry. One must break through the symbolism. The author wielding it and transmitting it cannot just plainly say the knowledge. We don't have the vocabulary or grammar for these new things, so storytelling and story universes convey it. The zoomorphism and cinematic references ground us in what all these bots are doing mimetically.

I'm excited the author shared and so exuberantly; that said I did quick-scroll a bunch of it. It is its own kind of mind-altering substance, but we have access to mind-bending things.

If you look at my AgentDank repo [1], one could see a tool for finding weed, or you could see connecting world intelligence with SQL fluency and pairing it with curated structured data to merge the probabilistic with the deterministic computing forms. Which I quickly applied to the OSX Screentime database [2].

Vibe coding turned a corner in November and I'm creating software in ways I would have never imagined. Along with the multimodal capabilities, things are getting weirder than ever.

Mr Yegge now needs to add a whole slew of characters to Gas Town to maintain multi-modal inputs and outputs and artifacts.

Just two days I go, I had LLMs positioning virtual cameras to render 3D models it created using the Swift language after looking at a picture of what to make, and then "looking" at the results to see the next code changes. Crazy. [3]

ETA: It was only 14 months earlier that I was amazed that a multi-modal model could identify a trend in a chart [4].

[1] https://github.com/AgentDank/dank-mcp

[2] https://github.com/AgentDank/screentime-mcp

[3] https://github.com/ConAcademy/WeaselToonCadova/

[4] https://github.com/NimbleMarkets/ollamatea/blob/main/cmd/ot-...

CPLX  16 days ago

The shocking changes to the culture over the last 20 years start to make a lot more sense when you realize someone decided to flood the society with mass quantities of prescription Amphetamines.

  • notfromhere  16 days ago

    prescription amphetamines don't do this if you are taking the prescribed dose (and you're not getting enough prescribed to get anywhere near high)

    • CPLX  16 days ago

      Yeah, well, lots of people aren't doing that.

      This is instantly recognizable as the work of someone who's been up for a couple days on Adderall.

      Of course, there may be other explanations, including other drugs. But if I was one to bet...

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zipy124  16 days ago

I mean a higher than average amount of them are, there is a whole psychadelics movement within tech. Just look at Elon Musk and his ketamine usage.