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Comment by mlrtime

1 month ago

Listen, you don't have to do this and are free to disagree.

However, this method has worked and will continue to work. Lots of people are fine just doing their shift and leaving, that's ok. Some people are not satisfied with that and want more, and there are strategies to do more work and get paid to do so.

Both of these comments have a kernel of truth.

Yes, you must do more than average to get promoted.

But also yes, if you do more and more and don't get the rewards you want, don't just continue. Either scale back again, or modify your strategy, or apply this strategy elsewhere.

I'm seeing widely opposing takes here; my experience is that the advice is correct depending on where you are. I've worked in places where someone who works 130% is seen as company's profit. But I'm currently at a place where making an extra effort is definitely rewarded with promotions.

I've literally never gotten a promotion without taking on the additional responsibilities first. I wouldn't expect a promotion for just doing time at a company like a prison sentence. If they didn't promote me then I would have immediately moved on.

There's a matrix, with each cell being weighted differently.

Do free work. Do good work. Be liked by your superiors.

And sadly "good work" is weighted the lowest. And if you are liked enough by your superiors, that's often enough.

And you are actively disliked by your superiors, it does not matter how much work you do or how good it is. You will plateau.

And the advice is not (necessarily) "work extra, unpaid hours".

  • Exactly, working harder doesn’t mean putting in extra hours. It means taking on projects with larger scope, impact and ambiguity during your normal working hours

It's almost as if it depends on the context and there isn't a simplistic bumper sticker approach.