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Comment by vladvasiliu

9 days ago

As sibling says, the question is too vague. I also pay for icloud, but I store all my things locally on my devices. The point is effortless sync and basic backup (protect pictures from phone theft).

I also pay Hetzner for a storage box or whatever it's called, where I regularly send backups of my stuff with restic. One of the sources is a local fat ZFS NAS, which I can access from everywhere via wireguard.

Yet, the only reason I'm contemplating buying a new iPhone is to get larger local storage. I'm also biting my fingers for not having pulled the trigger on a larger SSD for my main machine two months ago.

Every solution has different use cases, and I think no single one is perfect. I get the best value from using a mix.

You're someone who is comfortable in a terminal desktop environment on Linux. What you or I do for storage is irrelevant to the wider consumer market.

Apple's hardware prices mean that millions of people buy the smallest on offer and pay Apple monthly instead. It's a deliberate play for recurring services revenue.

My point is this: would they buy a phone that had virtually-zero free storage and rely solely on iCloud? Probably.

Some of them had 64GB models, in my view they are already doing that!

  • I don't know, do these small-storage-size models actually have that big a market share compared to the others?

    They also sell 1 TB iPhones and I think on the latest generation the minimum storage has been increased. If nobody bought them they wouldn't sell them (see the lack of newer "mini" models).

    I always thought that these models with tiny storage and tiny ram (for laptops) where just so that they could hook you with a low "starting from" price.

    My point wasn't that "nobody falls into apple's trap", I'm sure plenty do. Rather, unless you're sure your audience is representative of the "wider consumer market", just asking them if they pay for icloud and they say yes, it doesn't prove much.

    • Approx 2/3rds of Americans pay Apple monthly for storage, according to consumer research.

      Original source is paywalled but lifted quotes here:

      https://www.idownloadblog.com/2024/08/21/cirp-survey-apple-i...

      The smallest one is the cheapest, it's basic economics to assume that it sells the best. I would guess 60%+ buy the smallest, and I don't even need to look at data. You're welcome to disprove me.

      The popularity of the storage subscription is basically why Apple is a $4tn company.

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