It will have to quintuple or more to make business sense for Anthropic. Sure, still cheaper than a full time developer, but don't expect it to stay at $200 for a long time. And then, when you explain to your boss how amazing it is, and can do all this work so easily and quickly, it's when your boss start asking the real question: what am I paying you for?
A programmer, if we use US standards is probably $8000 per month. If you can get 30% more value out of that programmer (trust me, its WAY more then 30%), you gained $2400 of value. If you pay $200, $500, $1000 for that, its still a net positive. Ignoring the salary range of a actual senior...
LLMs do not result in bosses firing people, it results in more projects / faster completed projects, what in turn means more $$$ for a company.
More fundamentally: assume a 10 to 30% bump in actual productivity, find a niche (editing software, CRUD frameworks, SharePoint 2.0, stock trading, betting, whatever), and assume you had Anthropics billions or openAIs billions or Microsoft’s billions or Googles billions.
Why on earth would you be hunting $20 a month subscriptions from random assed people? Peanuts.
Lockheed-Martin could be, but isn’t, opening lemonade stands outside their offices… they don’t because of how buying a Ferrari works.
Im not sure about this. What they really need is to get rid of the free tier and widespread adoption. Inference on the $200 plan seems to be profitable right now so they just need more users to amortize training costs.
Cheaper than hiring another developer, probably. My experience: for a few dollars I was able to extensively refactor a Python codebase in half a day. This otherwise would have taken multiple days of very tedious work.
And that's what the C-suite wants to know. Prepare yourself to be replaced in the not so distant future. Hope you have a good "nest" to support yourself when you're inevitably fired.
> Prepare yourself to be replaced in the not so distant future.
Ignoring that this same developer, now has access to a tool, that makes himself a team.
Going independent was always a issue because being a full stack dev, is hard. With LLMs, you have a entire team behind you for making graphics, code, documents, etc... YOU becomes the manager.
We will see probably a lot more smaller teams/single devs making bigger projects, until they grow.
The companies that think they can fire devs, are the same companies that are going to go too far, and burn bridges. Do not forget that a lot of companies are founded on devs leaving a company, and starting out on their own, taking clients with them!
I did that years ago, and it worked for a while but eventually the math does not work out because one guy can only do so much. And when you start hiring, your costs balloon. But with LLMs ... Now your a one man team, ... hiring a second person is not hiring a person to make some graphics or doing more coding. Your hiring another team.
This is what people do not realize... they look too much upon this as the established order, ignoring what those fired devs now can do!
You say this like it's some kind of ominous revelation, but that's just how capitalism works? Yeah, prepare for the future. All things are impermanent.
Well probably OP won't be affected because management is very pleased with him and his output, why would they fire him? Hire someone who can probably have better output than him for 10% more money or someone who might have the same output for 25% less pay?
You think any manager in their right mind would take risks like that?
I think the real consequences are that they probably are so pleased with how productive the team is becoming that they will not hire new people or fire the ones who aren't keeping up with the times.
It's like saying "wow, our factory just produced 50% more cars this year, time to shut down half the factory to reduce costs!"
My company pays for the team Claude code plan which is like $200 a month for each dev. The workflows cost like 10 - 50 cents a PR
It will have to quintuple or more to make business sense for Anthropic. Sure, still cheaper than a full time developer, but don't expect it to stay at $200 for a long time. And then, when you explain to your boss how amazing it is, and can do all this work so easily and quickly, it's when your boss start asking the real question: what am I paying you for?
A programmer, if we use US standards is probably $8000 per month. If you can get 30% more value out of that programmer (trust me, its WAY more then 30%), you gained $2400 of value. If you pay $200, $500, $1000 for that, its still a net positive. Ignoring the salary range of a actual senior...
LLMs do not result in bosses firing people, it results in more projects / faster completed projects, what in turn means more $$$ for a company.
More fundamentally: assume a 10 to 30% bump in actual productivity, find a niche (editing software, CRUD frameworks, SharePoint 2.0, stock trading, betting, whatever), and assume you had Anthropics billions or openAIs billions or Microsoft’s billions or Googles billions.
Why on earth would you be hunting $20 a month subscriptions from random assed people? Peanuts.
Lockheed-Martin could be, but isn’t, opening lemonade stands outside their offices… they don’t because of how buying a Ferrari works.
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Im not sure about this. What they really need is to get rid of the free tier and widespread adoption. Inference on the $200 plan seems to be profitable right now so they just need more users to amortize training costs.
All the evidence suggests that inference is quite profitable actually.
It's $150, not a huge difference but worth noting that it's not the same ast the 20x Max plan.
Cheaper than hiring another developer, probably. My experience: for a few dollars I was able to extensively refactor a Python codebase in half a day. This otherwise would have taken multiple days of very tedious work.
And that's what the C-suite wants to know. Prepare yourself to be replaced in the not so distant future. Hope you have a good "nest" to support yourself when you're inevitably fired.
> Prepare yourself to be replaced in the not so distant future.
Ignoring that this same developer, now has access to a tool, that makes himself a team.
Going independent was always a issue because being a full stack dev, is hard. With LLMs, you have a entire team behind you for making graphics, code, documents, etc... YOU becomes the manager.
We will see probably a lot more smaller teams/single devs making bigger projects, until they grow.
The companies that think they can fire devs, are the same companies that are going to go too far, and burn bridges. Do not forget that a lot of companies are founded on devs leaving a company, and starting out on their own, taking clients with them!
I did that years ago, and it worked for a while but eventually the math does not work out because one guy can only do so much. And when you start hiring, your costs balloon. But with LLMs ... Now your a one man team, ... hiring a second person is not hiring a person to make some graphics or doing more coding. Your hiring another team.
This is what people do not realize... they look too much upon this as the established order, ignoring what those fired devs now can do!
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Homey, we're going to be replacing you devs that can't stand to use LLMs lol
You say this like it's some kind of ominous revelation, but that's just how capitalism works? Yeah, prepare for the future. All things are impermanent.
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Well probably OP won't be affected because management is very pleased with him and his output, why would they fire him? Hire someone who can probably have better output than him for 10% more money or someone who might have the same output for 25% less pay?
You think any manager in their right mind would take risks like that?
I think the real consequences are that they probably are so pleased with how productive the team is becoming that they will not hire new people or fire the ones who aren't keeping up with the times.
It's like saying "wow, our factory just produced 50% more cars this year, time to shut down half the factory to reduce costs!"
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i've never hit a limit with my $200 a month plan