Comment by Aurornis
4 days ago
> I am 99% convinced that a big part of what is reported as "long covid" is actually IKEA's mold-laced recycled wood time bombs shipped to people's apartments.
I'm glad you're better, but I'm sorry to say this is not a good take. I have a couple friends who suffered from Long COVID, one of whom eventually passed away from complications. Their conditions were clearly triggered by COVID and knowing both of their styles and tastes, I don't think they had a single IKEA furniture in their houses.
Long COVID misinformation is rampant and this is not helpful.
I'm sorry for your loss. It's definitely a fringe theory and I didn't intend to minimize their suffering. But this theory is grounded in my personal experience and my personal analysis with the furniture at hand and my immune system, plus the input of dozens of medical professionals and hundreds of lab tests along the way. My disease fits all of the long covid symptoms listed on wikipedia and it is brazen of you to swing the "long covid misinformation" hammer when I share my personal story of suffering and healing from the thing that people like you call "long covid".
This constant invalidation of multi-year delibitating disease is exhausting. If you come up with a long covid biomarker feel free to reach out so we can test and then you can officially gatekeep me from being part of "long covid". But until then please don't invalidate my healing story.
What helped me was other affected people sharing their story and figuring out what helped them personally to improve and what not. What DID NOT HELP was people in high-ranking social positions of power, especially in traditional medical fields, who (a) did not have the disease themselves and (b) just flat-out refused to even consider whole classes of causes and patients due to their personal hubris.
I have healed from this stuff DESPITE OF medical professionals.
> the thing that people like you call "long covid"
No. See e.g. https://meassociation.org.uk/2023/05/updated-booklet-long-co.... There are many conditions with a similar spectrum of symptoms, distinguished by their suspected causes: Long COVID is specifically the name where this is caused by a COVID-19 infection. We already know that COVID-19 infections aren't the only cause, because these conditions predate SARS-CoV-2 (in humans).
If you've correctly concluded that your symptoms were caused by something other than COVID-19, then by definition you did not have long COVID. "Long COVID is actually caused by IKEA furniture fungus" is misinformation, and your experience with a similar condition doesn't give you immunity from criticism.
> What DID NOT HELP was people in high-ranking social positions of power, especially in traditional medical fields, who (a) did not have the disease themselves and (b) just flat-out refused to even consider whole classes of causes and patients due to their personal hubris.
I half-seriously want to propose "doctors flat-out refuse to think about your condition" as a diagnostic criterion for chronic fatigue syndrome.
It is a horrific disease and there are many who have it much worse than me. But I also nearly died from this.
> If you've correctly concluded that your symptoms were caused by something other than COVID-19, then by definition you did not have long COVID.
The symptom onset correlated both with covid infection and with covid vaccination.
> "Long COVID is actually caused by IKEA furniture fungus" is misinformation, and your experience with a similar condition doesn't give you immunity from criticism.
Feel free to critize, but I don't see evidence strong enough to immediately reject my theory with such a certainity. Of course not every long covid patient has IKEA furniture. But in my informed opinion there is a correlation, just as with the covid vaccine, and it would make sense to do both scientific and judicial discovery of this correlation.
Due to lacking medical methods one might most likely never be able to show that long covid is caused by a certain mycotoxin plus a certain covid strain hitting the body at the same time, or a certain mycotoxin weakening the immune system enough for long covid symptoms to appear.
But IKEA is/was aware of the problem as they change color from white to gray, they actively hide facts about these materials from their product detail pages, and their own videos demonstrate that it is very likely that shipments of their product were soaked in humidity. And if you soak wood in water, wrap it in plastic paint, and then put it into a room with 30% humidity it is like a fungal growth booster no matter what the person who lives in that apartment does. The water wrapped inside plastic will create micropores in the plastic and try to diffuse outside, thereby creating perfect conditions for mold growth. This is what I think IKEA has done, and I think they tried to hide it.
As mold-based materials are growing in popularity both due to lower costs and sustainability factors, the dangers of mold-based materials that are shipped with too much internal humidity need to be researched and remediated.
PS: There are some books/podcasts by doctors who themselves got long covid and felt the gaslighting by their peers and reported about it.
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