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Comment by aebtebeten

11 days ago

I know/knew people who marched first in the CR and then in the antiVW movement.

One important piece of advice from their experiences: have plenty of people during your peaceful demonstration who are ready, willing, and able to eject provocateurs from your midst.

A related lesson from Airstrip One: just because someone is sleeping with you doesn't mean they're not an informant. Of course, if all you're doing is peacefully demonstrating, as you should be, even if they're looking for dirt as hard as they can, you can still screw their brains out with a clean conscience.

MLK sermon on nonviolent resistance: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/dra...

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN_9VqfVQ9c

Reminds me of..

(The site may be triggering..)

"Grothendieck got angry when they started pestering him. Justine recalled in an interview with Allyn Jackson: “The next thing we know, the two policemen are on the ground.” Grothendieck, who once practiced boxing, had single-handedly decked two police officers."

You had a chance here to disambiguate the strategy :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46530990

It's luck for everyone that the Latin side of classics is ideologically less controversial (+fertile in symbolism)??

  • > the Latin side of classics

    Tiberius <-> Epstein?

    > The site may be triggering.

    Indeed. It's a much older generation, but we have our share of immigrants from DZ as well.

    Lucky for mathematics that the Avignon policiers were not accustomed to "self defence make me a sandwich"!

    Someday I'll have to learn enough about sheaves to see if they can handle your cut from no-cut, where an initial commonality bifurcates into 有人理想 and 有人富翁.

    I guess a classical explanation might be:

      人之初,性本善。
      性相近,習相遠。
    

    but maybe Linebarger can have the last word:

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~...

    > ...if the door is left open to voluntary conversion, so that anyone who wants to can come over to the winning side, the winning side will sooner or later convert almost everyone who is capable of making trouble. (In the language of Vilfredo Pareto, this would probably be termed "capture of the rising elite"; in the language of present-day Marxists, this would be described as "utilization of potential leadership cadres from historically superseded classes"; in the language of practical politics, it means "cut in the smart boys from the opposition, so that they can't set up a racket of their own.")

    (also https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~... )

    • Ah Chapter 7

      Maybe Cordwainer's take can be updated.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46532760

      Rival ideological systems with their own pyramid schemes. High switching costs. So there you have fsckboi(?) knifing an MD(?) across the gap. While the winning side is...?

      >Certain very elementary appeals can be made almost without reference to the personal everyday background ("cultural-historical milieu") of the person addressed

      HN flamewars beg to differ.. (I note that ouestrous-prop would almost certainly flail)

      Sleeping with informant (?): https://youtu.be/nryXhiKdwi0?t=4m43s

      (Bonus ref to Santi/"tunneler")

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