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Comment by stvltvs

5 days ago

Border enforcement is only the excuse to build a paramilitary force akin to the Blackshirts or the Sturmabteilung that will do whatever violence is asked of them.

Dude, every country has borders and most take it seriously. In many countries, such as Poland, they shoot at people crossing the border illegally. A country with no enforced borders is no country at all.

If you want to revise your assessment to include the creation of this problem by having a lax border, I can agree with you somewhat. We should not require border police far away from the borders. But we do require it now, because certain malicious politicians let in a bunch of people illegally.

  • You're responding under the presumption that the official story about ICE's mission is accurate and sincere. I'm suggesting that it's a ruse to dupe people into accepting paramilitary enforcement of an authoritarian state. If so, arguments about border enforcement are just playing by the terms set by the propaganda.

    • If you read the second paragraph of the comment you just responded to, I alluded to a potential problem-reaction-solution scheme to create the situation (excessive illegal immigration through unenforced borders) to the final conclusion of expanding federal authority all over the place. It is subtle, so I don't blame you for not connecting the dots.

      Despite the fact that I suspect this scheme is in play, we do actually need to get these illegals out. I believe they have let welfare leeches, common criminals, foreign military, and terrorists all through the border to make sure that we would need federal help to get them out. Rejecting federal solutions now is not the answer. The answer is to let them solve the problem and insist that things go back to normal afterward.

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