← Back to context Comment by esseph 2 days ago Imagine if no one outside a select circle ever got to examine the code. 7 comments esseph Reply immibis 2 days ago Everything is open source if you're skilled with Ghidra.We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs? KK7NIL 2 days ago > We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source.Who's "we"? There's been quite a lot of pushback on this naming scheme from the OSS community, with many preferring the term "open weights". serf 2 days ago >We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs?the weights of a model aren't equivalent to the binary output of source code, no matter how you try to stretch the metaphor.>why notbecause we aren't beholden to change all definitions and concepts because some guy at some corp said so. immibis 2 days ago Unless that corp is OSI, right? heavyset_go 2 days ago Binaries and AI models can be inscrutable. They're meant to be interpreted by machines.We want human readable, comprehensible, reproducible and maintainable sources at minimum when we say open source. dspillett 1 day ago North Korea is called a “democratic people's republic”. Just because one thing that really isn't <whatever> is called <whatever> by the people in coontrol of it, doesn't mean that it is or that incorrectly calling other things <whatever> is correct.
immibis 2 days ago Everything is open source if you're skilled with Ghidra.We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs? KK7NIL 2 days ago > We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source.Who's "we"? There's been quite a lot of pushback on this naming scheme from the OSS community, with many preferring the term "open weights". serf 2 days ago >We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs?the weights of a model aren't equivalent to the binary output of source code, no matter how you try to stretch the metaphor.>why notbecause we aren't beholden to change all definitions and concepts because some guy at some corp said so. immibis 2 days ago Unless that corp is OSI, right? heavyset_go 2 days ago Binaries and AI models can be inscrutable. They're meant to be interpreted by machines.We want human readable, comprehensible, reproducible and maintainable sources at minimum when we say open source. dspillett 1 day ago North Korea is called a “democratic people's republic”. Just because one thing that really isn't <whatever> is called <whatever> by the people in coontrol of it, doesn't mean that it is or that incorrectly calling other things <whatever> is correct.
KK7NIL 2 days ago > We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source.Who's "we"? There's been quite a lot of pushback on this naming scheme from the OSS community, with many preferring the term "open weights".
serf 2 days ago >We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs?the weights of a model aren't equivalent to the binary output of source code, no matter how you try to stretch the metaphor.>why notbecause we aren't beholden to change all definitions and concepts because some guy at some corp said so. immibis 2 days ago Unless that corp is OSI, right?
heavyset_go 2 days ago Binaries and AI models can be inscrutable. They're meant to be interpreted by machines.We want human readable, comprehensible, reproducible and maintainable sources at minimum when we say open source.
dspillett 1 day ago North Korea is called a “democratic people's republic”. Just because one thing that really isn't <whatever> is called <whatever> by the people in coontrol of it, doesn't mean that it is or that incorrectly calling other things <whatever> is correct.
Everything is open source if you're skilled with Ghidra.
We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs?
> We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source.
Who's "we"? There's been quite a lot of pushback on this naming scheme from the OSS community, with many preferring the term "open weights".
>We call AI models "open source" if you can download the binary and not the source. Why not programs?
the weights of a model aren't equivalent to the binary output of source code, no matter how you try to stretch the metaphor.
>why not
because we aren't beholden to change all definitions and concepts because some guy at some corp said so.
Unless that corp is OSI, right?
Binaries and AI models can be inscrutable. They're meant to be interpreted by machines.
We want human readable, comprehensible, reproducible and maintainable sources at minimum when we say open source.
North Korea is called a “democratic people's republic”. Just because one thing that really isn't <whatever> is called <whatever> by the people in coontrol of it, doesn't mean that it is or that incorrectly calling other things <whatever> is correct.