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Comment by AndrewKemendo

2 days ago

I want people to finally get mad enough that they do something about it instead of sitting here with half ass solutions and just bitching about it.

Humans do not and have never proactively solved existential threats, it’s just does not exist in the history of humanity. Humans are exclusively reactionary when it comes to major existential threats.

So something needs to happen to cause the reaction and all the frogs are already half cooked

Didn’t expect a reply, so thanks for replying. Getting people active may be your intent, but it comes off like a demoralization campaign. I don’t know who is involved in it or why (although I can guess), but there is a lot of intentional demoralization in these surveillance and privacy threads. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoralization_(warfare)

If you really want people to fight, it’s better to use fighting words, to cheer on allies who are fighting, or to give examples of how you have successfully fought back. This also counters attempts at demoralization.

  • Comfortable people don’t start, maintain or complete revolutions.

    Shit’s gonna have to get really really bad really really quickly for anybody to actually seriously mobilize against the reality of the insanity that you live inside.

    It’s just so fundamentally corrupt and broken at every possible level

    Anyone suggesting that we need some kind of relatively small skin procedure when the patient has stage four skin cancer is still living in a dream world

    • There is a difference between agitation and demoralization. Demoralization often has the opposite of the intended effect. People shut down and stop resisting, they defect to the other team, they abuse substances or in extreme cases they self-harm, all because they are convinced that resistance is impossible. None of this advances your revolutionary goals. Demoralization is collaboration with the enemy.

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I think the reaction to COVID in which we not only haven't improved our behavior regarding the problem of infectious disease but have regressed even further has shown that accelerationism is not a viable strategy for dealing with long-term problems whose effects are often not immediately and directly visible and which require inconvenience to solve.

  • Well we know that education didn’t work so that’s not a solution

    We know that command economies don’t work so that’s not a solution

    We know that formal hierarchies don’t work so that’s not a solution

    Have any solutions?

    Humans can only really coherently plan at the global scale required on the order of months into the future

    However our activities, even at the individual level (burning a tire for example) have extreme impacts and costs on extant populations globally and future populations.

    It’s like we completely stopped talking about climate change and how the ecological collapse is about to punch everybody in the throat.

    This is a mathematical formula that does not have a solution

    The only possible solution is to change the properties of the atomic unit which is individual human actor

    Since we cannot change the foundational biology of humanity then there is a impossible to solve problem here if there is a desire to retain the human element in the future. I stopped desiring a human future about 30 years ago because it makes no sense.

    The biological limitations of the human species is now the single weakest link of all possible futures.

    That was not true before (insert your preferred period, upper paleolithic, neolithic, industrial revolution etc…) but has only been accelerating since.

    Unless some absolutely foundational things change, like the foundational functioning of human systems, then we will continue this cycle of destruction forever.