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Comment by ruszki

3 days ago

It’s maybe unpopular, but people should feel bad about it, especially they should feel shame. I don’t feel it either, who knows this for decades, and even tried a few times. But I should. There is exactly zero pressure regarding this.

I don't think people should feel bad about it, but at least informed.

A better thing would he to have a carbon tax, so you have higher vat on beef than poultry and higher for poultry than eggs.

  • Why don't you think people should feel bad about it? My moral system generally dictates that I don't economically support immoral behavior, or at least seek alternatives where practical.

    Don't expect a carbon tax to save us, a carbon tax is not coming.

    • Because it is not even a remote exaggeration to say that in order to truly make the morally "correct" choices everyday, you would need to not participate in any part of society.

      Telling people to feel bad about eating animal protein but to keep driving their cars that destroy the environment, shopping at stores that underpay their employees, purchasing items that are made with diminishing resources in countries that pay close to nothing to their labor force is picking an arbitrary battle in a war of existence.

      Promoting making better choices will always be more effective than asking people to feel guilty over existing at all.

      Source your food locally if you can, cook and eat only what you need, etc.

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    • Because people would just feel bad about it and keep doing it. I don't care about people feeling bad about immoral behavior, I care about them not doing it in the first place.

Based on how people react to me simply being a vegetarian in their presence, without me commenting on what either of us are eating, people do feel shame. It's just that the shame is outweighed by the pleasure of eating whatever.

  • Is it really shame or are you imagining it? Maybe it’s discomfort at eating something delicious while not being able to share it. Like eating candy or cake in front of kid and not giving him any.