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Comment by aebtebeten

10 days ago

> the Latin side of classics

Tiberius <-> Epstein?

> The site may be triggering.

Indeed. It's a much older generation, but we have our share of immigrants from DZ as well.

Lucky for mathematics that the Avignon policiers were not accustomed to "self defence make me a sandwich"!

Someday I'll have to learn enough about sheaves to see if they can handle your cut from no-cut, where an initial commonality bifurcates into 有人理想 and 有人富翁.

I guess a classical explanation might be:

  人之初，性本善。
  性相近，習相遠。

but maybe Linebarger can have the last word:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~...

> ...if the door is left open to voluntary conversion, so that anyone who wants to can come over to the winning side, the winning side will sooner or later convert almost everyone who is capable of making trouble. (In the language of Vilfredo Pareto, this would probably be termed "capture of the rising elite"; in the language of present-day Marxists, this would be described as "utilization of potential leadership cadres from historically superseded classes"; in the language of practical politics, it means "cut in the smart boys from the opposition, so that they can't set up a racket of their own.")

(also https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~... )

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gsf_emergency_6  10 days ago

Ah Chapter 7

Maybe Cordwainer's take can be updated.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46532760

Rival ideological systems with their own pyramid schemes. High switching costs. So there you have fsckboi(?) knifing an MD(?) across the gap. While the winning side is...?

>Certain very elementary appeals can be made almost without reference to the personal everyday background ("cultural-historical milieu") of the person addressed

HN flamewars beg to differ.. (I note that ouestrous-prop would almost certainly flail)

Sleeping with informant (?): https://youtu.be/nryXhiKdwi0?t=4m43s

(Bonus ref to Santi/"tunneler")

  • aebtebeten  10 days ago

    flamewars (here as in persia) have the "former yugoslavia" dynamic, which is the opposite of his aims (unless in "black" form?). IIRC there's a bit in there where the radio/wire service equivalent is discussed as a strong temptation, which serious practitioners must take care to avoid.

    (an example of high vs mid: in an anecdote from the 談談 part of the V 打打, the principal [high] mentions his capitalist counterparts directly, with bare names, but his translator [mid] felt the need to "correct" his names by throwing in all the usual epithets "running dog", "oppressor", etc., etc. into the english translation. This habit of "improvement" was not lost upon her counterparts, who later relayed it as an example of what not to do)

    off to do atoms stuff; more tomorrow...