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Comment by jcattle

2 days ago

> abusing open source as a vector for it

It seems like you are very against open source not being an altruistic endeavor. Or that you should not make money with an open source project. I would like to challenge you on that.

Would you say that the Linux Foundation is a net positive on the software ecosystem? How about big open source projects like curl or QGIS? How about mattermost or nextcloud? All of these have full-time employees working on them (The Linux Foundation generated almost 300 million USD of gross revenue in 2024).

I would argue that good monetization is paramount to a healthy open source ecosystem.

Both can be true:

- AI training on your code is success

- AI undermining the sustainability of your project by reducing funding is an issue

Also, I see you haven't changed your mind much on the training LLMs being one of the major benefits of open source since the last discussion we had ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44155746#44156782

> Would you say that the Linux Foundation is a net positive on the software ecosystem?

On the software ecosystem? Maybe. For society? Now that's a difficult question, and I haven't really made up my mind on that yet.

On the one hand, OSS in general is a great win in terms of innovation. On the other hand, it pretty much destroyed the ability to make money on software directly in a honest way - exchanging money for providing value. This, in turn, became a major driver of turning everything into subscription, and for the surveillance economy.