Comment by bhelkey

Oh interesting, I had figured tele-operation would count as a disengagements.

Looking into reports you mentioned in a child comment, CNN reports Cruise needed human assistance every ~5 miles [1]. And I certainly wouldn't call a system that needs assistance every ~5-10 minutes Level 4 self driving.

Subjectively, it appeared Waymo was significantly better than Cruise in 2023 but without data it's hard know what that means in terms of human intervention.

If Waymo needed human assistance every 10-20 minutes, I would agree that it also doesn't qualify as Level 4 autonomous.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/06/cruise-confirms-robotaxis-re...