Comment by aquafox
1 day ago
There is a saying about Gauss: when another mathematician came to show him a new result, Gauss would remark that he had already worked on it, open a drawer in his desk, and pull out a pile of papers on the same topic.
1 day ago
There is a saying about Gauss: when another mathematician came to show him a new result, Gauss would remark that he had already worked on it, open a drawer in his desk, and pull out a pile of papers on the same topic.
One of the things I admire about many top mathematicians today like Terence Tao is that they are clearly excellent mentors to a long list of smart graduate students and are able to advance mathematics through their students as well as on their own. You can imagine a half-formed thought Terence Tao has while driving to work becoming a whole dissertation or series of papers if he throws it to the right person to work on.
In contrast, Gauss disliked teaching and also tended to hoard those good ideas until he could go through all the details and publish them in the way he wanted. Which is a little silly, as after a while he was already widely considered the best mathematician in the world and had no need to prove anything to anyone - why not share those half-finished good ideas like Fast Fourier Transforms and let others work on them! One of the best mathematicians who ever lived, but definitely not my favorite role model for how to work.
Well, in that time it was more or less how mathematics worked. It was a way of showing off, and often it would be a case of "Hey I've solved this problem, bet no-one else can". It was only later it became a lot more collaborative (and a bit more focused on publishing proofs).
You're correct that the culture of mathematics has changed a lot, and has become much more collaborative. The rise of the modern doctoral training system in Germany later in the 19th century is also relevant. So really Gauss's example points primarily to how much mathematics has changed. But at the same time, I think you could reasonably take Gauss to task even applying the standards of his own era - compare him with Euler, for example, who was much more open with publication and generous with his time and insights, frequently responding to letters from random people asking him mathematical questions, rather like Tao responding to random comments on his blog (which he does). I admire Euler more, and he was born 70 years before Gauss.
Of course, irascible brilliance and eccentricity has an honorable place in mathematics too - I don't want to exclude anyone. (Think Grigori Perelman and any number of other examples!)
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Someone blew my mind by convincing me to read Bush’s “As we may think” which was published in 1945. Then I started digging into him and discovered he was also the second president of the ACM, was instrumental in shaping the formation of the National Science foundation (mainly by critiquing their initial plans as unworkable) and also Claude Shannon’s doctoral advisor. Because of course he was.
Not to mention instrumental in getting the Manhattan Project going, along with many other research projects during WWII. He basically knew everyone. I didn't know he was Shannon’s advisor though!
not sharing something you had no time to properly check is entirely understandable
> There is a saying about Gauss: when another mathematician came to show him a new result, Gauss would remark that he had already worked on it, open a drawer in his desk, and pull out a pile of papers on the same topic.
As if phd students need more imposter syndrom to deal with. Ona serious side, I wonder what conditions allow such minds to grow. I guess a big part is genetics, but I am curious if the "epi" is relevant and how much.
Imposter syndrome? If I was a PhD-level student (back then) and had an idea - and it turned out that Gauss had also thought of the idea, then written it out, and he kept the notes right in his desk - yeah. I'd take that as proof that I was one of the world's top mathematicians.