Comment by mmooss

There are more differences: A formally structured org isn't a flat org with titles attached.

> "Humans are complicated" => that is my uncertainty caveat. We're not absolute-hierarchical nor absolute-flat

yes

> when we build organisations which try to deny hierarchy, it has a habit of sneaking in thru the back door.

The same happens when we try to deny freedom. Empowering everyone, through freedom and universal equality and human rights, is the foundation of the very successful modern world.

As I said upthread, I think the focus on hierarchy and power is really an outgrowth of current anti-democratic politics, even if people don't explicitly think of it that way. That doesn't deny all hierarchy or power - it's a matter of degree: The history of modern democracy is to lean heavily toward individual freedom (for essential moral reasons too).