Comment by the-grump
1 day ago
People don't want to face the music but the way we're fishing is completely unsustainable.
The way we live on land is unsustainable too, of course.
1 day ago
People don't want to face the music but the way we're fishing is completely unsustainable.
The way we live on land is unsustainable too, of course.
There's a massive reduction in the whale song of the blue whales. Almost halved. They are presumably starving.
That something ginormous can be so elegant, beautiful and sleek is hard to conceive till one meets a blue whale. Let's let them thrive on the blue planet.
The Blue Whale population has actually increased since the 70s. When they were critically endangered, their population numbered roughly 1,000-2,000 but population estimates for today put the number at roughly tenfold that. The 1966 worldwide moratorium on whaling has been incredibly successful and we’ve also seen recoveries in Humpback and Grey Whales.
Compared to numbers at peak whaling you are correct. I was commenting on a more recent phenomena.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/ocean-hea...
http://archive.today/2025.09.03-030523/https://www.nationalg...
We keep talking about “sustainability” but sustainability is a secondary issue here.
The primary issue is that we are taking individuals and basically torturing and/or killing them, rarely for good reasons.
It won’t even be decades before our descendants look back at horror for how we treat them, not unlike how we can’t even imagine how our ancestors thought it was ok to have human slaves.
The major difference will be that the horrors of human chattel slavery (even the name clearly links it to how we treat non human animals) have largely only been recorded via text. The horrors of our actions will be available in text, images, videos for all to see in perpetuity by just looking at an Instagram archive.
so we need to extract resources from space asap, now that the planet cant sustain entire human race
Adding more resources doesn't solve the problem that they aren't being managed sustainably. We can't exhaust all the resources in space, but we could definitely exhaust all of the resources accessible to us in space. Like how we can't exhaust all of the oil or all of the gold on this planet, but we could exhaust all of the resource which can be mined economically.
This was once explained to me with a metaphor of a bacteria colony in a jar. The colony doubles every 24 hours. So they quickly exhaust the space in the jar. No problem, you give them another jar. 24 hours later, their population doubles, and they have filled both jars.
Yes, it does
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now this guy's just a straight shooter with upper management written all over him.
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No, we need to reduce dramatically our own population.
That sort of thinking needs to first and almost-entirely be directed at China, India and Africa, then we can talk about sustainability and what the West can do.
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