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Comment by cbeach

2 days ago

You claim Israel needs to “become democratic” and is an “apartheid” state despite the fact Israel is a functioning pluralist democracy that comprises both Jews and Arabs (unlike Gaza, which expelled Jews and is led by terrorists).

By the “Zionist entity,” Hamas are describing Israel.

I don’t think you’re ignorant. I think you’re wilfully turning a blind eye to just how hypocritical Hamas are in their criticism of Israel.

No, it is not a democracy. Apartheid states are not democracies, and Israel is not pluralistic, it is fiercely supremacist. And, as it happens, led by at least one convicted terrorist.

It wasn't Hamas that "expelled the Jews" in 2005, it was Israel that dismantled its illegal settlements.

Right, by the zionist entity Hamas is describing Israel today, but leaves it open whether it might still be a genocidal settler state in the future.

I'm not so sure Hamas criticises Israel. Do you have something in particular in mind? From my perspective they try to resist the occupation and genocidal policies. To the extent that they publish criticism it is usually aimed at international institutions and countries enabling Israel that claim to value international law and human rights but clearly do so in a severely racist and bigoted way.

  • > No, it is not a democracy.

    Israel is a parliamentary democracy with a multi-party system, independent judiciary, elections and civil liberty.

    If you believe otherwise, you must be knee-deep in Hamas propaganda, as many Western leftists seem to be.

    > It wasn't Hamas that "expelled the Jews" in 2005, it was Israel that dismantled its illegal settlements.

    So Hamas made it illegal for Jews to live in Gaza? Sounds like an apartheid state to me...

    Meanwhile 21% of Israeli citizens are Arab.

    • No, it is not, it is a supremacist apartheid state, which is also illegally occupying and settling territory. Hamas more commonly calls israelis nazis, rather than mentioning the apartheid.

      No, international law made it illegal.

      It's a stretch to call them "citizens".