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Comment by charcircuit

1 day ago

Because it was a kickstarter that was run like a scam, was years late to deliver the first device, the hardware was already not good at the start due picking an automotive SOC, the form factor was bulky, and the software was really buggy.

GrapheneOS is a much more practical open source OS to use Linux on a phone.

GrapheneOS is not solving the actual interesting problem (running on an entirely mainline kernel, just like on x86). It's effectively a hardened variety of LineageOS/AOSP, hence entirely reliant on device-specific downstream kernels/BSPs that will never see a feature update.

BTW, hardware support on postmarketOS "community" class devices has seen some nice improvements as of late. Once these improvements meaningfully stabilize (avoiding the risk of regression/breakage; there's been some of that even in the recent testing for the 2025-12 stable release) it's quite possible that some "community" devices might finally reach "main" class, marking them as OK for daily-driver use. Something to watch for as we approach 2026-06.

  • >GrapheneOS is not solving the actual interesting problem

    Consumers don't care how interesting the developer's problems are. They want their own problems to be solved and GrapheneOS does a better job of that.

    >running on an entirely mainline kernel

    Google already did that work years ago. Android will work on a mainline kernel. Just like with x86 the mainline kernel needs to support the hardware e you want to use though.

    • > and GrapheneOS does a better job of that

      While Google is allowing that.

      > Just like with x86 the mainline kernel needs to support the hardware e you want to use though

      Librem 5 runs on all free drivers. This is why it will never be tied to an old kernel. This doesn't work with GrapheneOS.

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I don't care about the problems they had many years ago. Sent from my daily driver Librem 5.