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Comment by hedgehog

1 day ago

Oh no, across the line Toyota still tries to sell you a subscription service that's required for things like remote start.

So? Why would people buying the cheapest possible model care?

Remote start is a luxury feature. Just ignore the subscription offer like a luxury trim option.

  • Remote start isn't a luxury feature unless you also classify remote unlock as a feature. Toyota (and many manufacturers) used to use the key fob to also start the car but they disabled that so they could charge for it as part of the subscription.

  • It depends. What else is included in that subscription? Mirror and seat heating by any chance?

    Can you buy a Toyota that isn't always online? Because having remote start available, subscription or not, sounds like you can't.

    • My point was you can buy a car that is primarily safety+capability and not luxury+subscription. My rav4 has a touchscreen and power windows but that’s literally it as far as convenience/luxury. ~28k a couple years ago, no subscription.

      Anything heated, remote, touch to start, etc is in the luxury category what gp was asking about avoiding.

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    • > It depends. What else is included in that subscription? Mirror and seat heating by any chance?

      Are you saying it is? Or is this a rhetorical question?

      Either way, those are again luxury features. If someone is in the market for those features they’re not really looking for the base model any more.

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