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Comment by idoubtit

21 hours ago

The reporter rightly queried other researchers about this article, and all of them were skeptical that a "supply shock" could be the cause, or even the main cause. My own skepticism is because the death rate went down many months before any sign of shortage appeared.

I haven't read the paywalled Science paper, but The Economist extracted a graph which shows that the purity of Fentanyl pills was stable till the first months of 2024, then dropped sharply. The purity of the powder peaked in 2023, then went down in 2024, back to its older levels. They suppose that it proves the supply was short, but another researcher even states that the supply of Fentanyl precursors didn't change until the end of 2024.

Anyway, the epidemic plateaued by the start of 2022, then went down after August 2023; Source https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/drug-overdose-data.htm

Why did the death rate slow down for one year, then go down many months before any sign of supply changes?

The article says that deaths peaked in mid 2023. Narcan was approved for over the counter use in March 2023.

That suggests a plausible alternative cause.

  • What is your supposition here? That addicts are keeping narcan around just in case? That good friends of addicts are standing by with the spray in case it is needed? That your local opium den had staff with it on hand?

    Narcan should be available, but short of a few users that know they need to keep it around, I don’t buy that making it available has meant a significant change in total outcomes because of timely deployment.

    • First responders would carry narcan or equivalent. I am sure it is readily available in areas where people are dying daily from overdoses.

    • See as you can buy narcan out of a vending machine now, yes it's wider distribution probably has a downward effect on opioid deaths.

    • Some of those ... absolutely, yes?

      You might have got some at a rehab centre, or someone might live with a non-addict friend or partner. Community outreach workers (in cities that have embraced this stuff) might carry some around to administer.

      I would be surprised if widespread availability to Narcan didn't decrease ODs.

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    • Yes to all of the above. I knew of addicts who managed to get their hands on it many years ago when it required a prescription. Most weren't that resourceful though.