Comment by dbetteridge
15 hours ago
Came to the thread to see if anyone else had mentioned conduit.
It's cheap as chips and saves you a lot of future brick cutting or concrete breaking
15 hours ago
Came to the thread to see if anyone else had mentioned conduit.
It's cheap as chips and saves you a lot of future brick cutting or concrete breaking
I do have PVC conduits under the flooring. You can see the photos here: https://alienchow.dev/post/homelab1/
In theory I can pull a new cable through. But practically it might be tough due to the number of bends (shelter -> wall -> vent -> ceiling -> wall -> floor -> room). In the worst case scenario I can give it a try, but it's probably going to destroy the new fibre cable when I pull it through. For now the connection still works, so I am hoping it doesn't get to the point where I have to give that a try.
you can always try the plastic bag + vacuum cleaner trick - take a thin flexible rope, tie it to a small plastic bag, stuff the small plastic bag into the conduit, use a vacuum cleaner at the other end to suck the plastic bag & rope through. You can then use the rope to pull through new cable. If you make the rope twice the length of the conduit, you can keep it in there indefinitely to pull through new cable whenever you want.
This is an unreasonably effective way of running cables. The first time I used it it felt like magic with how quick and painless it was.
Fair enough! I had a cursory search in the post for mention of conduit and couldn't see anything obvious so wasn't sure.
AFAIK fibre cable should be pretty flexible, though not a massive fan of tension.
From memory bends shouldn't be less than 5cm radius or thereabouts so it depends on your conduit size!
Nice post btw, appreciate the detailed planning involved.
That's why they invented cable lube. That number of turns is no obstacle, even with existing cables. But you should also have a pull cord spool.
To anyone reading this and assuming it applies equally to electrical conduit, it does not, which is why the NEC specs a maximum of four 90 degree bends between pull points. You could probably manage five, as was described, but it is technically disallowed (again, for electrical wiring - the NEC doesn’t care about networking).
I've seen dummy wires being put in when the conduit goes in.
Say initially you need 2 wires from A to B. That probably means there's plenty of room left. So you just put 4 more other wires in there. When the time comes you need to pull a new one, you pull in the new by pulling out the old
Bends ideally need pull boxes, but given the lack of pull boxes, you might be able to use fish tape where where fish rods / glow rods don't work, if you cannot get a pullstring / pull cable going.