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Comment by LargeWu

2 days ago

It's not just political views, though.

Politics is "How much should we tax people?" and "Where should we set limits on carbon emissions?" or "Which candidate do I support"

Politics is not "Black Americans are a terrorist group" and "Actually, maybe the Holocaust was not as bad as people say it was".

The latter are core moral views, and we should not be so quick to dismiss them as merely political.

> The latter are core moral views, and we should not be so quick to dismiss them as merely political.

Morality and politics and religion all have significant overlap.

Who gets to decide what are core moral views and what's mere politics? Is it the same folks who claim that "everything is political"?

  • I say everything is political and that there are political views that are just plain wrong and aren't compatible with life in society.

Or "if you take away my ability to hug women I will become a suicide bomber and I won't apologize for it. I like hugging more than I like killing, but I will kill." especially coupled with "Learning hypnotism has been my Jedi mind trick into sleeping with women".

  • I knew he was a loonie, but thought that you're exaggerating.

    Nope.

    Quote [1]:

    While I’m being politically incorrect, let me describe to you the mind of a teenage boy. Our frontal lobes aren’t complete. We don’t imagine the future. Our bodies want sex more than we want to stay alive. Literally. Lonely boys tend to be suicidal when the odds of future female companionship are low.

    So if you are wondering how men become cold-blooded killers, it isn’t religion that is doing it. If you put me in that situation, I can say with confidence I would sign up for suicide bomb duty. And I’m not even a believer. Men like hugging better than they like killing. But if you take away my access to hugging, I will probably start killing, just to feel something. I’m designed that way. I’m a normal boy. And I make no apology for it.

    There's a lot to unpack here, starting with equating female companionship to sex, and ending with the dichotomy between having sex and murdering people.

    I started looking for a source of his hypnosis quote, and stumbled into [2].

    Umm. Not going to quote it.

    [3] is a higher level overview of Scott Adams' hypnotism. It didn't make me any happier.

    Ugh. I used to like Dilbert in the 90s as a kid. Wish I knew about Scott Adams now as much as I knew then.

    That's to say, wish he wasn't such a horrible person.

    [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20160116140056/http://blog.dilbe...

    [2] https://www.tumblr.com/manlethotline/616428804059086848/hey-...

    [3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelschein/2018/06/20/dilber...

Yes, placing your political views into the realm of moral views places them beyond contestation. For many people, most of their political views boil down to core moral views, including ideas about taxation and carbon.

That’s why it’s not productive to just point at people and say they’re bad because they have bad ideas.

  • I don't think political views are beyond contestation. People become bad for believing in bad ideas.

    And, boy, his ideas were bad.