Comment by maccard
1 day ago
Someone else said this perfectly farther down:
> The whole discourse around LLMs is so utterly exhausting. If I say I don't like them for almost any reason, I'm a luddite. If I complain about their shortcomings, I'm just using it wrong. If I try and use it the "right" way and it still gets extremely basic things wrong, then my expectations are too high.
As I’ve said, I use LLMs, and I use tools that are assisted by LLMs. They help. But they don’t work anywhere near as reliably as people talk about them working. And that hasn’t changed in the 18 months since I first promoted v0 to make me a website.
Rather be a Luddite than contribute to these soul suckers like OpenAI and help them lay off workers.
All tech work has been in service of laying off workers. Phone operator, bank teller, longshoreman (outside the US) all used to be serviceable careers to earn a lifetime.
How are they “soul suckers”?
Using LLMs has made it fun for me to make software again.
Shallow learning, overall laziness imprinted on the character over time. For kids and juniors starting the field they are much worse. None of the stuff I've learned over past 20 years was handed over to me in this easy fashion.
Overconfident and over-positive shallow posts just hurt the overall discussion. Also some layer of arrogance - a typical 'if you struggle to get any significant value out of this new toy you must be doing something horribly wrong, look at us all being 100x productive!' which is never ever followed by some detailed explanation of their stack and other details.
Clearly the tools have serious issues since most users struggle to get any sustained reliable added value, and everybody keeps hoping things will improve later due to it being able to write lengthy prose on various topics or fill our government documents.
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