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Comment by adrianN

19 hours ago

To make matters worse, recycling is a scam (with a small handful of exceptions).

Varies widely across country and the type of thing you're recycling. People are so extreme with recycling, it's either "recycle everything!" or "it's a scam, just chuck it all in the garbage"

  • > "it's a scam, just chuck it all in the garbage"

    This sentiment is the case because very often that's where recycling ultimately ends, we just pay someone to move it far away from us so we don't have to see it when it happens.

    Until 2018, when they finally stopped accepting it, one of the US largest exports to China was cardboard boxes sent over for "recycling". We burned tons of bunker fuel shipping back the boxes Chinese goods arrived in. The net environmental impact would likely have been less had we just kept the boxes at home.

    It's strange to me how often people prefer a widely acknowledged lie than to simply admit the truth.

    I always recycle though because the recycle bin in my city is larger than my trash bin, and I don't have enough room in my trash bin sometimes.

  • It varies very widely indeed. In some countries it isn't a scam because it gets burned like Denmark but other than that majority of recycling just means shipping it to a landfill in a poor country that they promise to recycle.

    • Well, it depends a lot on material.

      Metals, especially aluminum, get widely recycled because it actually makes financial sense.

      Plastics, well, you are probably better off burning them for electricity.

    • In Hungary it gets sorted out locally. We also recently implemented a bottle return system that (although it's annoying) produces clean stacks of PET, aluminium and glass, all of which are recyclable.

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Depends, it’s hard to make a blanket statement like that. Recycled steel and aluminum for example is absolutely not a scam. But for plastics, I agree that waste incineration is mostly a better solution than recycling (which produces low-quality plastics with some risk of unhealthy contaminants in the few cases that it’s not actually a scam).

Can you elaborate on that?

Edit: I'm actually curious l, i don't know how recycling supposed to work for electronics and how it can be a scam.