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Comment by latexr

1 day ago

> If that's the case, then, what's the wall?

I didn’t say that is the case, I said it could be. Do you understand the difference?

And if it is the case, it doesn’t immediately follow that we would know right now what exactly the wall would be. Often you have to hit it first. There are quite a few possible candidates.

And there could be a teapot in an orbit around the Sun. Do we have any evidence for that being the case though?

So far, there's a distinct lack of "wall" to be seen - and a lot of the proposed "fundamental" limitations of LLMs were discovered to be bogus with interpretability techniques, or surpassed with better scaffolding and better training.

  • > And there could be a teapot in an orbit around the Sun.

    I think you’re confused. You are the one making the extraordinary claim, the burden of proof is on you.

    You asserted LLMs have a finite number of steps to go to reach (overcome?) human limits. You don’t know that. It hasn’t happened. You can’t prove it.

    I, on the other hand, merely pointed out that is not a certainty.

    Your teapot argument works against you.

    • The case against "hard wall": every "hard wall" that was predicted so far was bypassed, and the measured performance keeps going up steadily.

      The case for "hard wall": wishful thinking.

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