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Comment by mlinster

5 hours ago

I think that age verification is important. While its not perfect, it is one tool to help protect kids.

In an ideal world, parents would be good parents, know what their kids are up to, install parental controls on their digital devices (software solutions out there range from free/bundled to not expensive), have conversations with kids about what's on the internet and what to avoid.

Government overreach is not the answer, it's a plaster (and an excuse for more surveillance which is arguably the primary factor) over bad parenting. In the UK at least, all major ISPs and mobile providers have a basic parental/adult-content control package that is set-up by default (opt-out by the bill payer). Albeit trivial to get around with a VPN/proxy or changing DNS servers etc.

Kids will be kids as well. They'll get around restrictions, they're clever, they talk with their mates in the playground about this sort of thing. Especially teens.

  • You roll out the ‘bad parents’ trope then immediately admit bypassing parental controls is trivial.

Against what? How much struggle and pain are we actually seeing in the world because children have unrestricted internet access?

Think back to when you were a child. Did age verification ever stop you from doing anything? The automated, technologically-implemented age-verification is even less interested in properly verifying anything than the ID-checking bouncers at a bar. None of these things protect kids, they just annoy them and teach them that authority is stupid and lying is a convenient way to deal with stupid people.

Call your ISP and ban any NSFW/NSFL access by DNS, both in your children's phones and your home connection. Problem solved.

  • Then they scrape together their pocket money and walk into a pawn shop and hand over the cash for a second hand smartphone. Plenty of free WiFi around.

  • This does not work, browsers like Firefox don't even always use the system DNS by default.

    • Ah, blocking porn from your devices does not work. But age gating porn in your country somehow fixes the fucking global internet....

      Please explain that too me.

      I'm sorry for getting a little steamed here, but I have to wonder if you've put any thought into what you're asking for in the name of kids safety. And worse, if you think it will work globally what are you going to do when Saudi Arabia wants anything they don't like banned in the US, for example.