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Comment by beanjuice

5 hours ago

Does anyone have the list?

NBC has posted the full list here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/us-sto...

> A U.S. official confirmed the full list of countries will include Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bosnia, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Colombia, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Dominica, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Republic of the Congo, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Uruguay, Uzbekistan and Yemen.

  • Grenada is here because the US asked to install radars here for their Venezuelan operation("drug boat interception") and Grenada declined. They also raised the The Level 2 advisory for US citizen.

  • Both Armenia and Azerbaijan? At least they aren’t playing favorites.

  • Russia I presume is on the list because of geopolitical tensions.

    I am not familiar with every country in that list but in my experience, what looks like an anomaly is Morocco, which produces a fairly large elite compared to the size of the country (worked with lots of highly educated / highly paid (and therefore net tax contributing) moroccan nationals). I have hardly worked with any other nationality in that list in my professional life (Bangladesh and Tunisia maybe).

  • I think this move could harm US in two ways: It will reduce the immigrant diversity which might make the population skew towards the biggest immigrant population such as from India and Mexico which are not in this list. Second it will remove USA as top destination for talent, which will help stop brain drain from these countries causing their local industry to benefit and thereby reducing the edge of US companies.

  • Why Bhutan is here? It's a peaceful small place.

    It has Nepal, Pakistan and Bangladesh too - some of them makes sense.

    But overall this list feels too much.

  • What did Jordan, Azerbaijan, Macedonia or Uruguay do?

  • > Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan

    They forgor Tajikistan. Or may be it was just too hard to spell.

    • Tajikistan is used by the US for CIA training against Iran. This is why Iran will often deny visas to Americans who have Tajikistan passport stamps.

  • > Afghanistan Iraq

    Comparing to US immigration support following the Vietnam war this is shameful.

  • > Saint Kitts and Nevis

    How many immigrants from an island with less than 50k inhabitants are there?

    Also, Cuba surprises me, doesn't the USA usually love to make a big deal about people fleeing big bad evil communists?

    • Saint Kitts and Nevis sells passports, so I imagine that is the rationale. I see some other microstates on the list that fit that pattern as well.

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