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Comment by dragonwriter

7 days ago

> My counter-hypothesis is that America has never really known authoritarianism

Funny, because the racist authoritarians most people point to as the canonical example were themselves directly inspired by the US example. I think a more realistic reason is that this particular brand of race-heirarchy-based authoritarianism that mostly only affects white folks if they are seen as challenging what it does to everyone else has been normalized in the US since before the founding, varying only in intensity and the degree to which its intent is overly stated.

TL;DR: https://x.com/i/status/1131996074011451392

This is NOT what America is about. America is about opens history book

uh oh

Frantically starts flipping though pages

uh oh. oh no. no no no. uh oh

If you think that America and Europe have similar experiences with authoritarianism, I guess we just don't share basic ground truth. The fact that you are flip about it is just silly, and makes you seem unserious.

Have a good day!

  • > If you think that America and Europe have similar experiences with authoritarianism

    I didn't say the American and European experiences with authoritarianism were the same, or even similar, I said the American experience with a very specific orientation of authoritarianism, with a specific focus, is extremely deep and pervasive, and that that has explanatory power on the relatively mild reaction of the American public to a change in the intensity and overtness of that particular flavor of authoritarianism.

    This is, in fact, very different from the European experience.