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Comment by daheza

9 days ago

How about we treat people humanely? How about we focus on the criminals and dangerous people first instead of getting people that have pending citizenship appointments. How about we don't grab people from hospitals, schools, and places of worship? How about we try to get citizenship easier access for these folks who are clearly living and contributing successfully to our society? How about we don't have masked thugs grabbing anyone of color off the street?

Its extremely easy to do better than they are. Biden and Obama did in fact do this and successfully. They are not trying to do it well, they are trying to do it cruelly. The cruelty is the point.

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commandlinefan  9 days ago

> focus on the criminals and dangerous people first

That's what they say they are doing? Every time I read about them arresting somebody who was "just picking their kids up from school", it turns out to be some professional agitator who was trying to get arrested in exchange for a photo op.

  • cmtm4  9 days ago

    If that were true, they'd be showing up with real warrants (super easy if these are convicted felon illegal immigrants as they claim! But of course there are nowhere near as many of those as, say, the "thousands" they claim exist in Minneapolis) and mostly dressing in much more ordinary federal agent clothes and it'd all be boring and uneventful and legal enough that most of what they're doing would hardly even be noticed.

    Going several thousand(!) strong into a US city and rolling around town in paramilitary convoys questioning people who don't "look American", to... "support fraud investigations" apparently, LOL, WTF... among other things, is why they're a hot topic right now. If they were doing what they claim to be doing, this would all be boring stuff.

    Frankly I don't feel like I should be having to explain why guys in SUVs wearing plate carriers and comically overloaded with blinged out Call of Duty gear driving around a US city and sometimes jumping out literally going "papers, please" to people who "look foreign", all while universally masking up to hide their identities, is extremely fucking bad, to the point that I think that language is way too mild, but here we are I guess.

  • spit2wind  9 days ago

    How does one become to be a professional agitator? Indeed.com comes up with no results. I have a friend who's bored with their job.

  • timeon  9 days ago

    > That's what they say they are doing?

    Hardly with president convicted of sexual assault (among other things).

    • commandlinefan  9 days ago

      See, this is exactly why I don't believe the things I read - his only actual conviction was for falsifying business records. (He is a convicted felon, though, that's indisputable).

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  • buffington  9 days ago

    > Every time I read about them arresting somebody...

    You're clearly not reading enough and are a part of the problem if you believe what you're saying to be true.

negzero7  9 days ago

They can self deport and get paid doing so, it doesn't get any more humane than that really.

  • MandieD  9 days ago

    Let’s say you’re a person of questionable immigration status who has lived in the US for a couple of decades, achieved some modest success - your own home, mostly paid for, a car or two, maybe even a small business.

    Sure, just walk away for not even a month’s pay, back to a country you’ve not lived in for decades.

    Oh, and there’s a good chance some roided-up high school dropout is going to snatch you and stuff you in a van when you go to the immigration office to begin this nice, civilized process so that he can make quota.

    Yeah, I’d be uninterested in drawing the attention of the immigration enforcement machinery right now, too.

    If the government wanted people to take the carrot, they shouldn’t be so quick with the stick, even at immigration courts where people were doing their best to follow the laws.