Comment by rootusrootus
9 days ago
> Or it is a good tool used wrong
This. ICE serves a necessary function. It is intentionally being wielded with malice. The target is not immigrants, they are just the face of the brawl, the real target is democratic voters.
> can people vote and make ICE stronger / weaker depending on their choice
This question is easy to answer. The citizens could easily vote in a new president in 2028 who defunded ICE altogether. We already know that cutting funds is way easier than granting them.
>The citizens could easily vote in a new president in 2028 who defunded ICE altogether.
You think that after two more years of this regime that any such candidate would be allowed anywhere near whatever pretense of an electoral system still exists?
I need you to understand that the United States is already no longer a democratic republic in anything but name. The system of government you're assuming will fix the mess will have been entirely dismantled by then. The time to fix this within the system was in 2024.
That rhetoric is popular online, but I have not heard any convincing argument for how it plays out in practice.
Your ability to be convinced by arguments, or refusal thereof, is not an objective measure of the likelihood of future events.
If anyone had described to you the timeline of this administration from 2024 to now, prior to it happening, you probably would have dismissed it as ridiculous. Yet here we are, this is already normal.
The way it plays out is they have two more years to lay groundwork and entrench their power, dismantle systems and burn alliances which will take decades to rebuild, declare martial law because someone twitched at an ICE goon the wrong way, and possibly start a war in Europe, and no one stops them because people like you think they'll just get to vote the baddies out and everything will just go back as it was.
I hope you're right, I don't think you are but I hope you are. But if you think everyone is just engaging in "online rhetoric" then I think you're naive.
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