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Comment by shmichael

13 hours ago

Without the purchase price, it is unclear whether this deserves congratulations or condolences.

Two years in the LLM race will have definitely depleted their seed raise of $4m from 2023, and with no news of additional funds raised it's more than likely this was a fire sale.

It was not a fire sale I'm pretty sure. Langfuse has been consistently growing, they publish some stats about sdk usage etc so you can look that up.

They also say in the announcement that they had a term sheet for a good series a.

I think the team just took the chance to exit early before the llm hype crashes down. There is also a question of how big this market really is they mostly do observability for chatbots but there are only so many of those and with other players like openais tracing, pydantic logfire, posthog etc they become more a feature than a product of its own. Without a great distribution system they would eventually fall behind I think.

2 years to a decent exit (probably 100m cash out or so with a good chunk being Clickhouse shares) seems like a good idea rather than betting on that story to continue forever.

  • I don’t know about that. I looked at them a couple of months back for prompt management and they were pretty behind in terms of features. Went with PromptLayer

Anecdotally, from the AI startup scene in London, I do not know folks who swear by Langfuse. Honestly, evals platforms are still only just starting to catch on. I haven't used any tracing/monitoring tools for LLMs that made me feel like, say, Honeycomb does.

  • I'd say out of many generative AI observability platforms, Langsmith and Weave (Weights&Biases) are probably the ones most enterprises use, but there's definitely space for Langfuse, Modelmetry, Arize AI, and other players.

Agreed, Sentry, Posthog, and many more are all doing the exact same thing now, I'd be surprised if this was a good deal for Langfuse. I personally migrated away from it to use Sentry, their software was honestly not that great.