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Comment by kstrauser

17 hours ago

This is the part that I find the strangest:

> We also dropped support for other very old browsers, including Edge Legacy, iOS versions earlier than the last 3, Firefox versions earlier than the last 2 (aside from Firefox ESR), and Android Browser.

Safari from iOS 16, released in 2022, is more modern in every conceivable way than MSIE 11. I'd also bet there are more people stuck with iOS 16- than those who can only use IE 11, except maybe at companies with horrid IT departments, in which case I kind of see this as enabling them to continue to suck.

I'd vote to rip the bandaid off. MSIE is dead tech, deader than some of the other browsers they're deprecating. Let it fade into ignomony as soon as possible.

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sebazzz  16 hours ago

“Support” here probably means “we’re testing jQuery for compatibility on those web browsers” - likely Safari from iOS 16 still runs this version of jQuery just fine. However, running automated test suites or support bugfixing for those clients is a lot harder than spinning up some Microsoft-provided VM with IE11 on it.

layer8  11 hours ago

There are a lot of intranet web applications that require IE, and IE is still in support by Microsoft. Even on Windows 11 Edge still has IE Mode for that reason. IPhones stuck on older iOS version by definition aren’t supported by Apple anymore.

  • kstrauser  9 hours ago

    Use those browsers for the internal undead apps, but a modern browser for the Internet.

    Those phones are still supported. The most recent iOS 16 update was in September 2025.

croes  15 hours ago

It’s rarely a horrid IT department but some special or legacy software without modern replacement

  • voxic11  10 hours ago

    But is this horrid legacy software really going to be pulling in a new major version of jQuery?

troupo  16 hours ago

> Safari from iOS 16, released in 2022, is more modern in every conceivable way than MSIE 11.

There are likely millions if not tens of millions of computers still running MSIE11. There are likely to be no devices running iOS 16

  • Strom  15 hours ago

    > There are likely to be no devices running iOS 16

    My iPhone X is stuck on iOS 16 with no way to upgrade.

    However, the phone is still working well. Despite being in daily use for 8 years it still has 81% battery capacity, has never been dropped, has a great OLED screen, can record 4K@60 video. It is far more responsive than a brand new 2025 $200 Android phone from e.g. Xiaomi. It still gets security patches from Apple. The only real shortcoming compared to a modern iPhone is the low light camera performance. That and some app developers don't support iOS 16 anymore, so e.g. I can't use the ChatGPT app and have to use it via the browser, but the Gemini app works fine.

  • kstrauser  16 hours ago

    According to Cloudflare, there are almost no users still on MSIE of any version.[0]

    Statcounter says there are about 4.6% of iOS users still on iOS 16.[1]

    My gut instinct is that there are multiple times more people using iOS 16 today than MSIE of any version.

    [0] https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-20...

    [1] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/ios/mobil...