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Comment by ocdtrekkie

5 hours ago

I absolutely think we should put people in bad boxes, and would go so far as to suggest if you are worried about this possibility, you may be worried about which box you belong in. ;)

I think the important part is there must always remain a possibility for someone to exit that box. Repentance and forgiveness are key values in themselves, and we must be able to accept people if they can change.

Unrepentant garbage people who still make garbage statements and do garbage things, however, can remain in the dumpster where they belong until such time they warrant climbing out.

> you may be worried about which box you belong in. ;)

There’s also the risk someone very loud decides to put you in a box you don’t belong in. Eventually you are able to demonstrate it, but, in the meantime, you need to deal with the consequences.

Your post may be insinuating that you put ESR and RMS in such boxes, although you did not actually say that. You might want to clarify that point. (And I say that as someone who has neither upvoted or downvoted you.)

I'll also say that there are enough aspects of our personality and behavior that you might use to justify placing someone in the "bad box" that almost everyone would be in one; and if you were to relax the criteria so that you "average badness" along multiple axes, that comes with its own problems.