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Comment by jsight

11 hours ago

I put it in a VM and had it build a really simple todo app for me the other day. It wasted so many tokens that I can't help but agree with you right now. And I could certainly have done the same thing with beads and opus in approximately the same amount of time.

However, the gas town one was almost completely hands off. I think my only interventions were due to how beta it was, so I had to help it work around its own bugs to keep from doing stupid things.

Other than that, it implemented exactly what I asked for in a workable fashion with effectively one prompt. It would have taken several prompts and course corrections to get the same result without it.

Other than the riskyness (it runs in dangerous permissions mode) and incredible cost inefficiency, I'd certainly use it.

If gas town can actually do stuff well at any price it'll have a radical impact on how society is organized, because there are people out there who have practically unlimited money (billions of dollars of their own to spend, plus they can get the government to print more dollars for them if necessary; you probably already know who a few of these people are).

I've only started using coding agents recently and I think they go a long way to explain why different people get different mileage from "AI." My experience with Opencode using its default model, vs. Github Copilot using its default model, is night and day. One is amazing, the other is pretty crappy. That's a product of both the software/interface and the model itself I'd suspect.

Where I think this goes in the medium term is we will absolutely spin up our own teams of agents, probably not conforming to the silly anthropomorphized "town" model with mayors and polecats and so on, but they'll be specialized to particular purposes and respond to specific events within a software architecture or a project or even a business model. Currently the sky's the limit in my mind for all the possible applications of this, and a lot of it can be done with existing and fairly cheap models too, so the bottleneck is, surprise surprise... developer time! The industry won't disappear but it will increasingly revolve around orchestrating these teams of models, and software will continue to eat the world.

I guess tokens get cheaper all the time, and we can fix the risk via sufficient sand boxing. (I mean the risk to your computer.)

  • I've been running my own version of what Gas Town seems to be in a couple of proxmox hosts for a while now, it's fine.