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Comment by Orygin

3 hours ago

I get your points but I'm not sure I agree. Kubernetes is a different kind of difficulty but I don't think its so different from handling VM fleets.

You can have 220 vms instead and need to update all of them too. They also are full of state and you will need some kind of automatic deployment (like ansible) to make it bearable, just like your k8s cluster. If you don't configure the network egress firewall, they can also both pull whatever images/binaries from docker hub/internet.

> To get around this you end up having to cache images which means more infrastructure to maintain

If you're not doing this for your VMs packages and your code packages, you have the same problem anyway.

> When there's a CVE

If there is a CVE in your code, you have to build all you binaries anyway. If it's in the system packages, you have to update all your VMs. Arguably, updating a single container and making a rolling deployment is faster than updating x VMs. In my experience updating VMs was harder and more error prone than updating a service description to bump a container version (you don't just update a few packages, sometimes you need to go from Centos 5 to Centos 7/8 or something and it also takes weeks to test and validate).