← Back to context Comment by fsflover 10 hours ago > Android> without being tied to GoogleThat's a contradiction. 19 comments fsflover Reply rcMgD2BwE72F 9 hours ago No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS. izacus 8 hours ago No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS. catlikesshrimp 9 hours ago It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devicesHopefully that can change, in the future fsflover 6 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368 pjmlp 9 hours ago As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates. philipallstar 9 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 13 replies →
rcMgD2BwE72F 9 hours ago No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS. izacus 8 hours ago No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS. catlikesshrimp 9 hours ago It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devicesHopefully that can change, in the future fsflover 6 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368 pjmlp 9 hours ago As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates. philipallstar 9 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 13 replies →
izacus 8 hours ago No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS.
catlikesshrimp 9 hours ago It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devicesHopefully that can change, in the future fsflover 6 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368
fsflover 6 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368
pjmlp 9 hours ago As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates. philipallstar 9 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 13 replies →
philipallstar 9 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 13 replies →
No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.
You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS.
No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.
Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS.
It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices
Hopefully that can change, in the future
It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368
As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.
Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates.
This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
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