← Back to context Comment by fsflover 13 hours ago > Android> without being tied to GoogleThat's a contradiction. 21 comments fsflover Reply rcMgD2BwE72F 13 hours ago No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS. izacus 12 hours ago No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS. pjmlp 13 hours ago As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates. philipallstar 13 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 14 replies → catlikesshrimp 13 hours ago It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devicesHopefully that can change, in the future fsflover 9 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368 brnt 3 hours ago Anyone on Graphene is tied tot Google, for it requires Google hardware.
rcMgD2BwE72F 13 hours ago No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS. izacus 12 hours ago No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS. pjmlp 13 hours ago As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates. philipallstar 13 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 14 replies → catlikesshrimp 13 hours ago It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devicesHopefully that can change, in the future fsflover 9 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368 brnt 3 hours ago Anyone on Graphene is tied tot Google, for it requires Google hardware.
izacus 12 hours ago No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS.
pjmlp 13 hours ago As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates. philipallstar 13 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 14 replies →
philipallstar 13 hours ago This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 14 replies →
catlikesshrimp 13 hours ago It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devicesHopefully that can change, in the future fsflover 9 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368
fsflover 9 hours ago It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368
No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.
You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS.
No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.
Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS.
As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.
Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates.
This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
14 replies →
It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices
Hopefully that can change, in the future
It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368
Anyone on Graphene is tied tot Google, for it requires Google hardware.