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Comment by Noaidi

7 hours ago

Great news? It’s great news that nobody really knew that we were buying items but not receiving them from the person that we bought them from? It’s a logistical advantage to defraud customers? Because this is what Amazon was doing all along, defrauding customers. I never knew that I was receiving an item from someone who I didn’t purchase it from how is that even legal?

Amazon's assumption was that every box of "Apple AirPods 4" is the same, so it doesn't matter if you got the one sold directly from Apple or from some random reseller. They would just put them in the same bin, after all they are all the same product. Great for logistics because it doesn't matter if the closest fulfillment center has AirPods sold by Apple or "Office Partner Inc", they just ship you whatever is closest. Obviously this fails spectacularly if a seller ever lies about their product, but who would ever do such a thing

  • Won't it also be an issue for products that have a best/use before date ?

    A batch from one seller may have earlier date than from another seller.

  • It also fails when someone receives the product, and then returns it (bonus points if it was ‘not what I ordered/fraud’) with the contents replaced with something bogus, if Amazon puts it back in stock.

    I know they do sometimes put it back in stock, because the item I received back (as the ‘we’ll ship you a replacement) was literally the same thing I shipped back to them. :s

It's been discussed a number of times on HN. The Wall Street Journal even had an article about counterfeits on Amazon a few years ago. There's one at [1] (paywall, naturally).

I'm not sure if it is fraud, but it definitely aided and abetting counterfeiters, and I think it is a travesty that Amazon has not been fined for it. I also actively avoid buying from Amazon partly because of this (and this decision will make no difference; I have no interest in patronizing a company that does this, unless I see some repentance), although there really isn't anyone else for a lot of items.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-ceded-control-of-its...

  • It is not my job to be the regulator, that is the regulators jobs. I do nopt have the time of capacity in my bipolar affected mind to cram in the detail of this corrupt capitalist world we all let happen.

    And I cannot read that article because it is behind a paywall and I am too poor and homless to afford a subscription.

    And how many people even come to HN (not just thinking about myself).

    And now I have no option but to buy from amazon since I am homeless and do not have a fixed address where I can has stuff shipped to.

    All of your point are fine if you are well off and capable, but putting this on me, and people like me, is just wrong.

    If you want to organize a boycott against amazon, I will be right there with you. Until then all you have are words.