Comment by pibaker
3 hours ago
> Do not torture babies for sport
There are millions of people who consider abortion murder of babies and millions who don't. This is not settled at all.
3 hours ago
> Do not torture babies for sport
There are millions of people who consider abortion murder of babies and millions who don't. This is not settled at all.
I'm quite interested to hear how you think this refutes the parent comment? Are you saying that someone who supports legalised abortion would disagree with the quoted text?
No. I think the opposite is true. Those who consider abortion murder can claim that we do not in fact universally condemn the murder of babies because abortion is legal and widely practiced in many places.
Some may consider abortion to only kill a fetus rather than a fully formed baby and thus not murder. Others disagree because they consider a fetus a baby in its own right. This raises a more fundamental question about the validity of any supposedly universal morality. When you apply rules like "don't torture baby" to real life, you will have to decide what constitutes as a baby in real life, and it turns out the world is way messier than a single word can describe.
You are ignoring the “for sport” clause.
The moral status of abortion is irrelevant to the question of whether “don’t harm babies for fun” is a moral universal, because no woman gets an abortion because “abortion is fun”