Comment by sanderjd
1 day ago
Yeah this does seem right. Maybe as our own empire has been collapsing, our culture has been edging toward the brits'.
1 day ago
Yeah this does seem right. Maybe as our own empire has been collapsing, our culture has been edging toward the brits'.
No, nationalism and patriotism started to be embarrassing to the educated classes in the US after the USSR collapsed. We had "won", and slavish obedience and loyalty are really not consistent with the values of liberalism and democracy, and empire is quite uncomfortable if you believe in human rights and self-determination, etc. Our society has been changing because it's running into the contradictions of a culture designed to foster the unity necessary to win wars and dominate the world and an idealism that says all humanity is equal and freedom and self-determination are inherently good.
I don't think "patriotism" and "slavish obedience and loyalty" are the same thing.
Can you articulate a meaningful distinction?