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Comment by ChrisMarshallNY

1 day ago

> US national fiction is "the US is a classless society"

I wouldn't say that.

It's just that we believe that there's no birthright caste. Mobility is possible between all classes. Sometimes, though, it's really difficult; just not impossible.

Big difference, in mindset.

https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/joint-review-class-by-paul-fuss...

What makes the firepit so heartbreaking is that it’s almost an example of attempting upward mobility the correct way, since — as you note — in the upper echelons of the American class system, taste and style and behavior are what really stratify people. The problem is that the purchaser lacks the class background to understand the shibboleths and so gets led terribly astray. It’s like some poor fool trying to seem very educated and cultured by reading The New Yorker (if you want to impress, try the New York Review of Books, or better the London Review of Books).3 This information asymmetry is what defeats so many attempts at direct social climbing. You can’t make a frontal assault on the class above you. They will see you coming.

It's heartbreaking that hackers (and "technocrats", with the sole exception of the above masters of p-hacking??) have not really taken into their system that cultural mobility >>> economic mobility, given how much easier it is on paper..

(I'd say HN is a laudable attempt tho at uh CULTURAL REVOLUTION that parallels this admins' :)

I think someone else said that even the "Jobs-Powell dynasty" is going to take a couple generations to get close to the Drumpfts? (How about the Vance dynasty?)

Oh. I try to remember theres often an implicit downward in front of mobility

https://archive.ph/2026.01.23-052820/https://www.thepsmiths....

"Mobility is possible between all classes."

So it isn't classless?