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Comment by usefulposter

9 hours ago

Hey, that sounds like Signal!

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/4590

>We're not going to remove the reminders.

>If you don't want to provide that access, you still don't need to – you can simply tap remind me later once a month

(See also: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/4373, https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/5809, ...)

Signal is an interesting case study in UX failure. I and a bunch of other tech forward people were on it in its heyday but after they removed SMS support and implemented shitty UX like that nag dialog: Neither I nor a single person I know uses it any more. Everyone is on Whatsapp or iMessage.

It may be cryptographically superior, but does that matter at the end of the day if nobody uses it?

  • Cryptographical superiority aside, Signal doesn't collect personal data, unlike Whatsapp. For me that's the main reason to use it. The UX is good enough, although some points can for sure be improved.

  • Sounds like they just don't care about privacy, do they? Guess showing them https://i.redd.it/0imry50rxy961.png still won't change anything..

    • That is a thoroughly unconvincing graphic, yeah.

      A few of my neighbors have kids the same age as my kids, they're on a WhatsApp group chat, and my choice is either use WhatsApp or make my kid miss out on social events, so it's not really a choice.

      "Hey let's switch to this app that nobody else is using and it sends you annoying popups every month but trust me bro it's more secure" is not a winning argument

  • > It may be cryptographically superior, but does that matter at the end of the day if nobody uses it?

    I've made a few attempts to convert people, but no-go. People stay on Telegram and WhatsApp because they have better UX and features.

    Signal refuses to see the value in good attractive UX.