Comment by otterley
1 day ago
There are many things you can't prove or disprove in this world. That's where trust and reputation comes in - to fill the uncertainty gap.
1 day ago
There are many things you can't prove or disprove in this world. That's where trust and reputation comes in - to fill the uncertainty gap.
You mean, trust and reputation of Apple? They're not exactly high:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26644216
None of these really match the scenario we're discussing here. Some are typical big company stuff, some are technical edge cases, but none are "Apple lies about a fundamental security practice consistently and with malice"
Cognitive Dissonance. You already made up your mind, no evidence will change it. Any evidence you get is cast aside for one reason or another.
> "Apple lies about a fundamental security practice consistently and with malice"
Uploading passwords to the cloud should count. Also this: https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...
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At the end of the day, it's all about how you weigh the evidence. If those examples are sufficient to tip the scales for you, that's your choice. However, Apple's overall trustworthiness--particular when it comes to protecting people's sensitive data--remains high for in the market. Even the examples you posted aren't especially pertinent to that (except for iCloud Keychain, where the complaint isn't whether Apple is securely storing it, but the fact that it got transmitted to them in the first place, and there exists some unresolved ambiguity about whether it is appropriately deleted on demand).